Are you planning on a career in the sciences and looking to get a Master’s or PhD to make it happen? If so, you are probably wondering how important the GRE will be in your journey to your dream school. Do GRE scores for science programs matter? We’re here to share with you the ins and outs of the GRE for science graduate programs – read on!
Are GRE Scores for Science Programs Required?
Unfortunately, there’s no clear cut yes or no answer to this question. It depends on the field, the school, and, most likely, the year you are applying. Programs like Chemistry have largely moved away from requiring the GRE, with many programs going as far as not accepting GRE scores at all. Programs like Biological Sciences, Computer Science, Mathematics, Physics, and Statistics all have varying requirements when it comes to the GRE. Let’s talk about them!
Making Sense of GRE Requirements
Looking at department websites can be confusing! Different schools talk about the GRE, and whether they require it, in different ways. Even at the same school, in the same department, different programs or tracks may have different requirements when it comes to the test. It’s crucial to do careful research on every school you are thinking of applying to before making a decision about taking the GRE. Here are a few of the ways you will encounter GRE requirements:
- GRE Required: This means just what it says – the GRE is a required component of this program’s application. Sometimes programs that require the GRE will also give information about what their admitted students’ average scores are. For example, Stanford’s PhD program in Statistics lists average percentiles of 92% in Verbal, 94% in Quantitative, and 83% in Analytical Writing. Georgia Tech’s Computer Science PhD generally sees Verbal percentiles above 80% and Quant percentiles above 90%. In general, top programs (think ranked 1-25) will want a Quant score above the 85% percentile, if not more.
- GRE Optional: Here, the GRE is optional. This can be a difficult requirement to navigate. How do you know if you need to take an optional test? We’ll address strategizing under these conditions a little later, but know that you should make a careful note of which programs are optional in order to help make your decision. Sometimes program’s where the test is optional will list it as “not required” instead of optional. Generally, if a program will review your test scores they will make that clear in their application information. If you have questions, do not hesitate to reach out to the program for clarity. You don’t want to miss a chance to submit a GRE score that helps your application because you weren’t sure if they would look at it.
- GRE Not Accepted: In this case a school will not consider a GRE score at all. If your targeted school list only contains schools that do not accept the GRE, then you can confidently make the decisions not to take the exam. If your targeted list contains a mixture of programs, you’ll need to make some decisions about taking the test.
- GRE Subject Test Required/Optional: In this case schools are looking for the field specific subject test. This can be in addition to the GRE General Exam or independent of it. Make sure you check each program to see if this is a requirement for admission or a way to boost your application.
Why Don’t All Programs Accept the GRE and Could They Start Again?
School and programs have different reasons for accepting or not accepting the GRE. Some fields, like Chemistry, began the process of moving away from the GRE back around 2018. They did so in order to make more holistic decisions about applicants and because of doubts about the test’s ability to predict graduate level success. Other programs went away from the test due to the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. Making the test optional, or not requiring it all, was a way to ensure equal access for all applicants.
So will the programs continue to not accept the GRE? It’s hard to know exactly, but there are some signs that more programs are moving towards requiring the GRE again. This is due to a mix of factors. Changes to universities admissions in the wake of the Supreme Court’s decision on race-conscious admissions programs have yet to be fully deployed. But, some admissions experts predict a renewed focus on test scores will come. Additionally, many schools that went away from the GRE are just now able to exam the impact of that decision on admissions and student performance. If those studies show performance was better when the GRE was accepted, we are likely to see a switch back.
For now, the most important thing as an applicant is to keep a close eye on requirements for 2024 applications. We may see changes as soon as this summer, so be careful to closely read requirements when applications open.
How to Decide If You Need to Take the GRE
Start by making a list of all schools you would be interested and willing to go to. Then, carefully review the test requirements for all of them. If they all require the test or all don’t, you have a clear path in front of you. What becomes more difficult is when you have a mix of some that do require, some that don’t, and some that are optional. How do you decide what to do then?
One place to start is making a ranking of your targeted schools. Let’s say you have 10 programs you want to apply to and only two require the GRE. You could decide to not take the test and not apply to those schools. This can be a valid decision. But, you should consider how much those schools appeal to you. Yes, taking the GRE is time consuming, expensive, and difficult. But, remember that it is a stepping stone to your ultimate goals: a spot in a great graduate program and a career in your chosen field. If everything else about the school is a good fit for you, it is likely a mistake to take it off the list just because it requires the GRE.
Here’s a useful exercise: consider yourself at the end of the application cycle looking at your acceptance letters. Are you disappointed that you don’t get to go to the school you left off? Does not having it as option feel like a regret? The test can be worth it if it means more, and better, opportunities for you.
Let’s consider what to do if you have 10 programs and four of them are GRE optional. This can be a trickier decision. Here, you need to consider the rest of your application. Does taking the GRE and getting a strong score improve your profile any? If you have some weaknesses in your GPA or the amount of science/math classes in your transcript, a strong Quant score can help mitigate those. Most science programs will be primarily looking at your Quant score, but top schools will be looking for scores above 80% for all sections at a minimum.
Takeaways
It’s important that you research each school you are interested in carefully. You’ll need to know what their policy towards the GRE is and how it fits into your application strategy. Remember that most programs don’t open their applications until late summer or early fall, so information that you see in June may not be the same as what you see in August. Do your research early, reach out to schools if there’s any uncertainty about requirements, and make a plan to check back in later in the summer.
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32 responses to “GRE Scores for Science Programs”
Hi,
My GRE score is 304( V:151,Q:153).
TOEFL : 95
Can you suggest me some good universities where i can do my ms in computer science.
Is university of Nevada,Reno possible with this GRE score ?
Hi Joppan!
Looks like your GRE scores meet the University of Nevada, Reno’s minimum requirements for the MS in Computer Science and Engineering. The minimum combined GRE score for the program is 297, and the minimum Quant scores is 152! So, you’re looking good so far 🙂
Here’s more info: http://www.unr.edu/degrees/computer-science-and-engineering/ms?view=admissions
A good number of US universities, both private and public, have an MS in Computer Science. I’d recommend thinking about where you’d like to be and narrowing your search from there. For example, do you prefer to be somewhere warm or cold? In a city, or in a small town? And then look at universities in areas where you’d like to spend a year or two. Also, consider whether or not you’d like a MS in Computer Science only, or an MS in Computer Science and Engineering.
Happy searching!
Hi Chris ,
I am an Internatinal Fulbright recommended student for Master’s in Electrical Engineering . My GRE score is 313 .
Verbal = 159 and Quant = 154 , AWA = 3 . My GPA is 2.95/4.0. My application has been submitted to
Georgia Tech
Florida State
North Carolina state
and
University of Arkansas
. I have been asked by IIE to retake the GRE and improve my Quantitative score .Now my question is since my Quantitative score is on the lower side for an Engineering major so if for any reason I am unable to improve my quantitative score , What do you think , how much chance do I have of getting into the aforementioned schools .
Hey MH! Unfortunately, I’d say they’re right, you’ve got to bring up that Quant score. Georgia Tech particularly is a competitive program and even with great extracurricular activities, you’ll need a competitive score. As for specific chances, it’s really hard to say, as that can vary so greatly from applicant to applicant. I wouldn’t even think about that right now.
Chris S
Hey
I just took the GRE and I got 154 (V) and 167 (Q). I am going to apply to top schools. I have 3 years research experience with 1 publication and 1 to be published paper. I have a gpa of 3.88 (overall), 3.96 (chemistry) from University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign. I am also a teaching assistant. However, I failed the CHEM gre miserably since I was sick and ended up missing 50 questions. How are my chances?
Hey Anmol! Unfortunately I just don’t have that much experience with the GRE subject tests and how programs view them. Check around on the forums to get a sense of how they’re typically viewed and if you still feel at a loss try to reach out to the programs directly to see if they have any information they can give you. 🙂
Chris S
I want to take an admission in Fall 2014 session for my PhD (Earth Sciences- Geology).
My credentials are;
First class Honors in B.Sc. from University of Calcutta
All India Rank 9 in IIT JAM exam 2008
M.Sc. Applied Geology, Dept of Earth Sciences, IIT Bombay (CPI- 9.61/10)
Outstanding student award during M.Sc.
3 years research experience in IIT Bombay after M.Sc
I got the following scores;
GRE- 307; verbal: 152 (53 percentile/% below), quantitative: 155 (61 percentile/% below), Analytical Writing- 3.0 (14 percentile/% below)
TOEFL- 83; Reading- 17, Speaking- 19, Listening- 23, Writing- 24
My queries are;
What are my options/chances in getting moderate universities (rank> 50 in Earth sciences) with these scores?
Can I be able to get admission with such a low score particularly in TOEFL?
I want to select 8 universities……out of which 4 universities have already been selected- Univ of Alaska, Fairbanks (Rank -54), University of South Carolina, Columbia (Rank- 81), University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa (Rank -108), Colorado School of Mines (Rank -25)
Kindly suggest me:
whether my selections are appropriate or not?
best available universities (another 4) with my score
Should I dare to select 1-2 universities in the range between 35-50 rank?
Thanks for the help.
Hey Ashok! Having a wide range of schools is a good idea as long as they fit the research you’re most interested in. I’d say go for a top 50 university but make sure you aim for some good programs at lower tiers as well. As for more programs, that’s something you’ll have to research yourself since there’s a lot to consider when choosing programs. 🙂
Good luck!
Chris S
Hey Chris,
I’m an international student.I have a 318 on my GRE (155 in verbal and 163 in quant) and a 4.5 on my AWA.I also have 115 on my TOEFL.I really want to get into a good university to pursue my masters in computer science.I preferably would like to study in California. Do you think I can get into good universities like USC, UC Berkeley or UCLA with this score ?
Shreyas.
Hey Shreyas! The best answer I can give is a “maybe”. You’d likely be around the middle of the pack for these programs, so you’ll have to find other ways to stand out. 🙂
Chris S
Hi Chris,
I got V145 and Q165 on my GRE and 107 on my TOEFL( R-L-S-W 19-26-26-26). I intend to apply for biological PhD programs. Will top 20 be possible? Thanks!
Hey Joe! Your verbal is probably on the low end, but honestly you should check with the programs individually to see how important those scores are. For some, it matters, and for others not quite as much. 🙂
Chris S
I got GRE score V151 ,Q160 interested in MS in Civil Engineering please suggest a good university in US with UG GPA of 8.3 from India.
Hey Karthik! I’d start with US News I mentioned above and then do some Googling to find out who is doing the research that interests you the most. 🙂
Best,
Chris S
Hey Chris
I have taken Gre 310 (160 q / 150 v) 3.5 AW
And toefl 103
Undergrad score 8.14 in major and 8.03 overall from India.
Have done 1 yr undergrad research and now doing a thesis based research. I m interested in phd in biology. What do u reccommend?
Hey Ankita! It sounds like you should do some research to determine which schools fit your interests and experience the best. Research fit is really important for PhD programs. 🙂
Best,
Chris S
Thank you chris for the reply. I did shortlist some universities but i am really worried about my gpa and gre. The gre score is not upto the mark. Nd since i am from India I need to convert my 10 scale cgpa to the us grading system. If i do it by unitery method my gpa comes to 3.2 is is nt vry good nd if i follow the columbian university scale my gpa comes to 3.7. Could you please tell me what gpa should i upload?
Hey Ankita! You’ll have to check with the programs. A lot of them have their own standards that they use. A lot will allow you to put in your score is and convert it via their own means. It really varies. Definitely reach out to them to get more information. 🙂
Best,
Chris S
I scored 310 (160Q/150V) in GRE and 103 in TOEFL.
My undergrad btech grade is 8.03/10.
10th-83.2 & 12th-81.
I have indulged in a final year project and am doing an ongoing thesis based research work. I am planning to do a PhD in biology and have shortlisted 5 universities
STONY BROOK SUNY
SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY
FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA RIVERSIDE
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
could you please tell me what is the probability of getting through these colleges and I am open to suggestions if you have any
Hey Neha! I can’t say one way or another unfortunately, and the truth is that I’m not very familiar with those schools. Definitely check around on the message boards to see what information you can find!
Best,
Chris S
Hi Chris,
I have GRE score of 307 (V 148 Q 159 AWA 3.0) ,GPA 8.93/10 and work exp of 2+ yrs in Software development field.
I am looking for MS in CS from top #10-45 ranked universites in CS.
I have GRE scores to Cornell Univ , Univ Of Florida , USC, Ohio state Univ columbus.
DO I need to re-take GRE or I can proceed further ?
Thanks in advance !
Hey Karthik! It looks like your scores would be a bit on the low end for scores in the range of 10-20, but maybe a bit more on target as you approach #50 or so. 🙂
Best,
Chris S
Hello Chris, I recently took the GRE and had scores of 152 on the Verbal,158 on the Quantitative and 3 on AWA. I have BSc. in Geography and Environment and CGPA 3.42 (scale 4) , among top 10% of my class. I have 1 article publication (US journal), 1 year work and research experience. Now I intend to have my MSc. in USA/Canada.
How competent I am and what should be my prospective university range? Thanks.
Hey Arif! Your scores are pretty good, so I recommend checking out the research being done and finding where your interests align best. 🙂
Best,
Chris S
Hello Chris. I recently took the GRE and had scores of 158 on the Quantitative and 164 on the Verbal. I’m looking at a PhD in the Top 10 schools. However I have limited research experience. I graduates in the Top 1% of my class and have an Undergrad GPA of 4.67 on a scale of 5. What are your recommendations?
I forgot to mention that the Area I’m interested in is Biology.
Hey Dolapo! The best advice I can give is for you to reach out to the schools you’re interested in to see if your research interests align. Most people applying don’t have too much on their CVs, so you probably won’t be that far out of the loop. 🙂
Best,
Chris S
Hi Chris, I’m Utsav, I am expecting 325 in GRE – Q165 and V160 and my academic profile is average i.e 65%, I do have a published paper in Database Security and I want to pursue my masters in Game Development/Computer Security, what kind of universities am I looking at?
A+?
A?
A-?
Your help is appreciated 🙂
Hey Utsav! It’s hard to say for certain, as I’m not extremely familiar with those programs. I’d use computer science as a basic guide for where your scores stand. Then, instead of focusing so much on if your scores are “good enough”, look for programs that match your interests the most. That will get you far!
Best,
Chris S
Thanks, Chris! 🙂
Sir recently i got gre score of 163 in quant and 143 in verbal. since i have interest in mechanical engineering so i want to pursue in this field. does my score will help or should i go for retake. i am particularly intersted in cal tech universities and university of Oklahoma for mechanical stream. and one more question that can i get scholarship based on these scores???
Hey Tony! Check out this post for more help with engineering scores:
https://magoosh.com/gre/2013/gre-scores-for-engineering-programs/
Best,
Chris S